tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post8865075964686163352..comments2024-03-15T10:00:13.379+00:00Comments on SomersF1 - The technical side of Formula One: Sounding off.. Aren't we here for the racing?Matthew Somerfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13759263537936706584noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-11502403520737454182014-03-21T23:18:43.528+00:002014-03-21T23:18:43.528+00:00I see your point and you're right.
What I mean...I see your point and you're right.<br />What I meant is that the world is changing and innovating, and being the F1 the top of the motor sport, it can't remain stuck in the past but hasto adapt and be an example. We already saw Ferrari using the last years KERS concept in their production cars, who knows maybe they'll use the both MGU concepts in the future. I get mindblowed how they Victor Potrimbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04065969428273609786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-48198315168504347862014-03-21T23:13:45.480+00:002014-03-21T23:13:45.480+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Victor Potrimbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04065969428273609786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-87239573398639500182014-03-21T08:39:53.903+00:002014-03-21T08:39:53.903+00:00Victor, how do you charge a battery? Either by plu...Victor, how do you charge a battery? Either by plugging it to electricity or feeding it by another energy source. Using energy to create another form of energy generates losses in efficiency. Take the example of the BMW i3: full electric "green" car. What the consumer sees is a car that does not produce co2 but the electricity that is being used to charge the car comes from another typeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-85587232807460407572014-03-21T01:55:34.266+00:002014-03-21T01:55:34.266+00:00F1 is EXACTLY about entertaining spectators. Who d...F1 is EXACTLY about entertaining spectators. Who do you think pays for the all the technology?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03768191850577919896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-29935221261143968162014-03-20T21:14:41.699+00:002014-03-20T21:14:41.699+00:00F1 has been evolving in terms of regulation since ...F1 has been evolving in terms of regulation since its inception and is predominately done in order to increase safety and reduce speeds (which is usually achieved through downforce reduction), DRS wasn't actually the FIAs attempt at increasing overtaking... The TWG/FIA introduced the moveable front wing in 2009, this failed miserably when DDD increased the predicted wake and made the Matthew Somerfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13759263537936706584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-23680417355788079032014-03-20T21:07:26.790+00:002014-03-20T21:07:26.790+00:00I agree with you Matt.
Yes, it's not as breath...I agree with you Matt.<br />Yes, it's not as breathtaking as the V8 but so what?<br />People have to look forward and realize that we're not in the XX century already.<br />BMW is now producing electric cars, the companies are trying to make cars with lower and lower consumption. Petrol isn't going to last forever and people has to realize that.<br />That's the reason of these Victor Potrimbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04065969428273609786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-23311969073842523652014-03-20T21:01:36.312+00:002014-03-20T21:01:36.312+00:00Anon: I'll start by saying I understand the fa...Anon: I'll start by saying I understand the fans at the circuit may have something to grumble about but this is where we have been heading now for at least 3-4 years, when the regulations started to be put together. Therefore I have to ask why the likes of Mr Ecclestone didn't do something sooner.<br />Having the twin seat cars screaming around the circuit before the actual F1 cars won&#Matthew Somerfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13759263537936706584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-90004667040575332122014-03-20T14:12:49.864+00:002014-03-20T14:12:49.864+00:00Although quieter I much prefer the new engines due...Although quieter I much prefer the new engines due to the impact they have had on driver input. The in-car cockpit footage and audio now highlights the driver effort in the control of the huge torque (E.g on corner exits). The time between gear changes is now longer allowing the viewer to hear the throttle inputs. Whereas with the V8’s it seemed to be a crescendo of revs and rapid gear changes. AAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-48426135196049185572014-03-20T13:37:24.237+00:002014-03-20T13:37:24.237+00:00I recently read an article where an F1 pilot descr...I recently read an article where an F1 pilot described how the resonance in the V8s made him and fellow drivers he had spoken with feel noxious. The sound levels of the V10s and V8s could inflict hearing damage and everyone with any sense wore earplugs all the time. It's laughable to see people claiming that that is something they want. It seems there are a disproportionate number of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-87223956142221860782014-03-20T13:11:27.028+00:002014-03-20T13:11:27.028+00:00Where's the limit of pushing changes to F1? Ca...Where's the limit of pushing changes to F1? Cars have changed considerably over the last 10 years: tyres, engines, aero, DRS, downforce restrictions, fuel restrictions and the list goes on and on. F1 is a money generating business more than a sport; take the entertainment part of it away and the public will look elsewhere. In 2011 DRS was introduced in response to the decrease in the public Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-56363142503830614032014-03-20T12:26:01.940+00:002014-03-20T12:26:01.940+00:00There always are those who oppose all change.
I fi...There always are those who oppose all change.<br />I find it pathetic that there is so much talk about the sound of the new F1 engines, while the fact the drivers now need to cruise (instead of racing) more than ever because of the need to save fuel is hardly ever mentioned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-80752130168547082422014-03-20T10:41:40.132+00:002014-03-20T10:41:40.132+00:00I agree - the previous formula cars always sounded...I agree - the previous formula cars always sounded like Play Station on broadcasts and these are worse to the point of being embarrasing! I know nothing about broadcast audio transmission and I assume the various broadcasters have to use the official output. When the sound is picked up in pit lane interviews on ordinary mics, it seems OK, different to before and that is to be expected, but the Tednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-19359334593423054332014-03-20T10:34:08.718+00:002014-03-20T10:34:08.718+00:00Another consideration in this is the manufacturers...Another consideration in this is the manufacturers. They are spending millions to develop these engines. If they feel they are recouping that cost in terms of road car development they are going to be more willing to spend the sums required. If there isn't a technological incentive how many engine manufacturers do you think there would be? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18153406660439708632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-58942043363362383192014-03-19T23:26:19.416+00:002014-03-19T23:26:19.416+00:00Would just like to point out to some others here, ...Would just like to point out to some others here, that sport isnt about entertaining spectators. Its about competition against another person or team. I think people should remember this when demanding changes because they didnt enjoy watching a sport. I loved the first race. Bring on the rest. I may even go watch formula e. No sound at all there.chris hopenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-86856405017378488622014-03-19T19:55:39.950+00:002014-03-19T19:55:39.950+00:00I'm reserving judgement until I've heard t...I'm reserving judgement until I've heard the 2014 cars 'in the flesh'. However, I do think F1 needs to be a bit careful here. There are many race goers that aren't F1 tech enthusiasts like us. <br /><br />Just as an illustration, I was at the first Singapore GP in 2008 and I remember the place was full of first time race go'ers who'd never seen or heard an F1 car Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-63262584205381757962014-03-19T11:17:57.669+00:002014-03-19T11:17:57.669+00:00I agree with Matt 100%. Engine noise is overrated....I agree with Matt 100%. Engine noise is overrated. I would accept any engine noise level on the account of better racing. Furthermore I would ditch the DRS because this cars are already slippery to control and there is no need of artificial passovers. And don't forget that in future maybe the cars won't have any engine noise whatsoever. The future is now. nidzovskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04692407220478571046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-72320262362438917302014-03-19T07:49:14.016+00:002014-03-19T07:49:14.016+00:00To Rami Hu...My above post was not intended to be ...To Rami Hu...My above post was not intended to be a rebuttal to your post. I intended it to be a general rebuttal on the subject. I posted it wrongly. Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-3757717276608316012014-03-19T02:02:20.004+00:002014-03-19T02:02:20.004+00:00You know, normally I would agree with all you have...You know, normally I would agree with all you have written. HOWEVER .. they just HAVE to do something about the in-car audio feed. You literally cannot tell when a driver is spanking it and when he's off to the corner pub. It's beyond pathetic!<br /><br />As for advantages, and there are some, I like the volume and growl of the cars. Who couldn't hear the crowd erupt when Vettel Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03768191850577919896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-28078751189723196932014-03-19T00:38:00.439+00:002014-03-19T00:38:00.439+00:00I disagree. F1, like all sports, is dependent on s...I disagree. F1, like all sports, is dependent on satisfying the spectator. All revenue (the life blood) originates and is therefore dependent upon satisfied spectators. When spectators don't receive what they want, they leave. The "we'll get used to it" argument is merely a defensive argument for spectator compromise, and it begs the question of why one is or would want to be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-4706310164283287962014-03-18T21:43:18.954+00:002014-03-18T21:43:18.954+00:00A agree Matt. At the end of the day, noise is abse...A agree Matt. At the end of the day, noise is absent because noise betrays mechanical inefficiencies. Reduced RPM is a huge part of that.<br /><br /> I got your note about cooling....we will have to agree to disagree on the laws of thermodynamics LOL.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11130230696626296315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-6782708495145684042014-03-18T21:30:28.980+00:002014-03-18T21:30:28.980+00:00Has not the #F1 group been at loggerheads with the...Has not the #F1 group been at loggerheads with the European countries over noise and fuel emissions for many years and had an agreement to meet these by a certain date/YearAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00242026537139039602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239944414177437471.post-39976822302082912122014-03-18T20:40:11.687+00:002014-03-18T20:40:11.687+00:00Yeah well said mate! "if you take the time to...Yeah well said mate! "if you take the time to listen you can discern much more, as the driver stamps on the throttle..."<br /><br />What's that big story about the sound huh.. <br />It's just GROWLING rather than previous years SCREAMING - very much different types of sound because of totally different system design which produces the sound (engines, batteries, generators, Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02359207423686155169noreply@blogger.com